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		<title>By: Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-2347</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the lyrics you want at http://www.lyricshunt.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the lyrics you want at <a href="http://www.lyricshunt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lyricshunt.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: KeriC</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>KeriC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it is, Ted.  Glad to know I'm not the only one noticing this new round of silliness.
http://supr.c.ilio.us/blog/2005/11/04/theyre-baaaaccckkk/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is, Ted.  Glad to know I&#8217;m not the only one noticing this new round of silliness.<br />
<a href="http://supr.c.ilio.us/blog/2005/11/04/theyre-baaaaccckkk/" rel="nofollow">http://supr.c.ilio.us/blog/2005/11/04/theyre-baaaaccckkk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a revelation this morning. Patricia brought up another great idea/concept to explore, and I thought she needs to be in a university environment, since most of the interesting projects i've read about lately are happening there. And then I thought. Why is that? Why can't regular folk explore cool ideas?

And then it hit me. Because of greed. Universities are like safe zones for exploring. Us folk in the real world *can* and *do* explore (that's where W2.0 came from after all), but we are too easily swayed by the money. We stop experimenting and start focusing solely on "monetizing" (still don't think that's a real word).

Greed is like a weed that chokes out innovation. Puts the importance of open source in a different light, I think. You can look at open source as that kind of "safe zone" where developers can innovate, learn, experiment without having to worry about $. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a revelation this morning. Patricia brought up another great idea/concept to explore, and I thought she needs to be in a university environment, since most of the interesting projects i&#8217;ve read about lately are happening there. And then I thought. Why is that? Why can&#8217;t regular folk explore cool ideas?</p>
<p>And then it hit me. Because of greed. Universities are like safe zones for exploring. Us folk in the real world *can* and *do* explore (that&#8217;s where W2.0 came from after all), but we are too easily swayed by the money. We stop experimenting and start focusing solely on &#8220;monetizing&#8221; (still don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a real word).</p>
<p>Greed is like a weed that chokes out innovation. Puts the importance of open source in a different light, I think. You can look at open source as that kind of &#8220;safe zone&#8221; where developers can innovate, learn, experiment without having to worry about $.</p>
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		<title>By: tedt</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>tedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your spidey sense is spot on. 

Essentially there is too much money in the space, chasing too few good ideas. So, 2 money related factors driving this. 

(1) Valuations are high for the larger players so their "currency" (stock) is at a great exchange rate right now. They will be hard pressed to get things this cheaply, so they acquire. Just look at the crazy talk around AOL...

(2) Many of the VC funds from 2000 are halfway to expiration. If they don't spend the money they will have to return it. What do you think they will do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your spidey sense is spot on. </p>
<p>Essentially there is too much money in the space, chasing too few good ideas. So, 2 money related factors driving this. </p>
<p>(1) Valuations are high for the larger players so their &#8220;currency&#8221; (stock) is at a great exchange rate right now. They will be hard pressed to get things this cheaply, so they acquire. Just look at the crazy talk around AOL&#8230;</p>
<p>(2) Many of the VC funds from 2000 are halfway to expiration. If they don&#8217;t spend the money they will have to return it. What do you think they will do?</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm gonna go go and agree with you, because i think i see from my initial comment and your response, that i took a more or less objective or theoretical stance simply for argument's sake. and by doing so, i ignored the most vital component of greed -- people.

the reality is of course that sf and the bay area were nearly destroyed by people and their greed very recently, and that's what really hurts. hell, i'm talking from portland now, and i didn't ever want to leave sf. 

so i certainly hope things go differently this time. flickr was canadian, wasn't it? that's gotta be a good thing. :&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m gonna go go and agree with you, because i think i see from my initial comment and your response, that i took a more or less objective or theoretical stance simply for argument&#8217;s sake. and by doing so, i ignored the most vital component of greed &#8212; people.</p>
<p>the reality is of course that sf and the bay area were nearly destroyed by people and their greed very recently, and that&#8217;s what really hurts. hell, i&#8217;m talking from portland now, and i didn&#8217;t ever want to leave sf. </p>
<p>so i certainly hope things go differently this time. flickr was canadian, wasn&#8217;t it? that&#8217;s gotta be a good thing. :&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;is it greed or recognizing your window of opportunity?

For that small percentage who strike gold based upon their hard efforts, I applaud them heartily. For those working hard on great products big and small  that get funding, industry recognition or the like I only wish them the best of success. Within the constrians of our economy, taking what someone offers you is not being greedy. (Though how you control that gift is another matter.

But those are the lucky ones who with their new riches, most likely, are now immune to greed. (unless they are the type that are never satisified) It's everyone else, those not getting the big payouts - that sense the huge sums of money, options, advances, hiring bonsues, new car leases, etc. around them, that are at risk of losing sight of their rational plans and starts expecting irrational ones. 

Again if someone offered you $100+k and a fancy director or VP position and you like that job/company I'd say take it. But take care to remember that any inflated salary/position is likely only tempoary, not a bottom rung from which the future will only go up from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;is it greed or recognizing your window of opportunity?</p>
<p>For that small percentage who strike gold based upon their hard efforts, I applaud them heartily. For those working hard on great products big and small  that get funding, industry recognition or the like I only wish them the best of success. Within the constrians of our economy, taking what someone offers you is not being greedy. (Though how you control that gift is another matter.</p>
<p>But those are the lucky ones who with their new riches, most likely, are now immune to greed. (unless they are the type that are never satisified) It&#8217;s everyone else, those not getting the big payouts - that sense the huge sums of money, options, advances, hiring bonsues, new car leases, etc. around them, that are at risk of losing sight of their rational plans and starts expecting irrational ones. </p>
<p>Again if someone offered you $100+k and a fancy director or VP position and you like that job/company I&#8217;d say take it. But take care to remember that any inflated salary/position is likely only tempoary, not a bottom rung from which the future will only go up from.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.spideysenses.com/2005/10/13/its-baaaaaaaack/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, i think it got started cause yahoo and google were rich and bored and figured (rightly so) that acquisitions would boost their profile/stock. now, they've attracted flies. i 100% believe along with you in the democratization of tech, and that the future lies in niche teams building niche apps.  everyone cross-talks about this -- through blogs etc. 
So question: knowing that you/they/we know this, can you blame lil developers grabbing what is essentially "stupid" money on the table (thus fueling this greed fire)? if you get to continue working on your project, plus there's $$$, and you realize that there's so many more ideas you could work on if it did happen to go sour and you left, and that these projects don't last forever, and that they can't be your whole life. 

is it greed or recognizing your window of opportunity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, i think it got started cause yahoo and google were rich and bored and figured (rightly so) that acquisitions would boost their profile/stock. now, they&#8217;ve attracted flies. i 100% believe along with you in the democratization of tech, and that the future lies in niche teams building niche apps.  everyone cross-talks about this &#8212; through blogs etc.<br />
So question: knowing that you/they/we know this, can you blame lil developers grabbing what is essentially &#8220;stupid&#8221; money on the table (thus fueling this greed fire)? if you get to continue working on your project, plus there&#8217;s $$$, and you realize that there&#8217;s so many more ideas you could work on if it did happen to go sour and you left, and that these projects don&#8217;t last forever, and that they can&#8217;t be your whole life. </p>
<p>is it greed or recognizing your window of opportunity?</p>
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